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Friday, December 21, 2007

Snowbowl's Artificial Snow debate is HEATING UP!

Snowbowl's Artificial Snow debate is HEATING UP!
Photo by Charles Seiverd/Background Photo by Cy Wagoner

Yesterday I posted SNOW IS ON THE MOUNTAINS! which included a little side note about how pissed off I was about why Snowbowl can't make artificial snow (read the post for my argument).

Well today I got an interesting email from someone who works for Howard Shanker's campaign party who touts a victory against Snowbowl's artificial snow case and its impact to "environmental integrity, public health and cultural survival". Howard Shanker is a Flagstaff attorney who represents several of the native tribes against Snowbowl and is running for Arizona's Congressional District 1 in 2008.

The email reads as follows:

hi

I encourage you to look a little deeper into the crap snowbowl is
handing you.

They are lying when they tell you Sunrise uses wastewater to make snow. We proved it in court already.

and

The water that Snowbowl uses wants to make snow with really is bad for you, it's toilet water mixed with industrial waste. They say it is clean enough to drink, but it does not even need to be free of feces for Flagstaff to sell it to them. It also contains pharmaceuticals that have been known endocrine disruptors once they enter the waterways.Also it will slowly bioaccumulate known carcinogens in the ski area if used for many years, making the place very deadly to skiers.

Rudy


Deadly to skiers? FECES? Rudy is making some bombastic claims! I want Snowbowl to start making artificial snow as bad as you do but I don't want an arm growing out of my ass just to have it. He makes it sound like they are going to turn the place into Chernobyl.

I wrote him back:

Rudy,

Thanks for writing me. You have an interesting point of view and it brings to light this case isn't as one-sided as I may have originally thought. To be fair, I will blog both sides of the coin but I few questions I hope you can answer:

1.) What about the double standard of other native indian tribes who are plaintiffs against Snowbowl but who are using their religious lands for an economic boost (such as the Hualapi tribe building the Grand Canyon Skywalk)? Does their argument about Snowbowl impacting native indian religious lands really hold water?

2.) In your opinion, is the White Mountain Apache's (Sunrise) objection to Snowbowl making artificial snow more heavily weighted on religious grounds or their predicted economic loss (because of Flagstaff's closer proximity to Phoenix)? Are Sunrise's ski slopes located on what WMAs consider "holy land"?

3.) In today's litigious and "sue-happy" culture, why would Snowbowl knowingly use water that would be "deadly to skiers" instead of properly treating it to healthy standards? In your opinion, would Snowbowl use this contaminated water because (a) they haven't done the proper research about its health effects? (b) it cuts the costs treating of the water? (c) they don't have other options? (d) something other reason?

4.) If it could be proven beyond a doubt that Snowbowl would use properly treated A+ water to make artificial snow, would Howard Shanker's camp still petition against them? Why or why not?

On a side note: In the articles I've read, I've never interpreted Snowbowl claiming that Sunrise uses poor quality water (or wastewater) to make their artificial snow, however, I have read articles that say it is less than A+ standards. To Sunrise's credit, my friends and I have skied and boarded there over a dozen times and I've eaten A LOT of snow, especially during my learning curve, and I've never heard one complaint about anyone getting sick.

Thanks again for writing me. I am eager to read your responses on this issue.

Sincerely,

Zega
Of course I will keep you updated on what he says. ALSO, I will be writing Snowbowl representatives to respond to Rudy's grandiose claims about shitting where I ski.

P.S. I don't expect Snowbowl to respond, "Who cares if there is feces in the snow? It turns to fertilizer in the spring....."

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Zega - you generally make some good points, other than your facetious postscript remarks.

I believe Snowbowl (AND the USFS don't forget) feel strongly for the environment and their clients, and both wish to act responsibly.

Their desire to use A+ recycled water is environmentally sound - especially after it is subjected to a freeze cycle in the snowmaking process. FYI - research the State of Vermont standards for tertiary treatment.

Obviously you wouldn't swim in it, unless you inhabit the Rio de Flag, or are an NAU professor with some hidden agenda, or perhaps even a journalist with a desire to make the big time. Maybe you might if you were an ambitious lawyer who finds that being paid for widespread publicity is cheaper that actually having to pay for it.

The Navaho and Hopi, especially, are entitled to respect, at least those who have the self-respect to practice traditional ways, so please seek a balance between fact, fiction, and outright misrepresentation in YOUR search for the truth.

Steve Harris

Zega said...

Steve Harris,

Great comment. I understand Snowbowl wants to expand their terrain but I think they are biting off more than they can chew with that battle since it will have further environmental impact to the land.

Respect for the environment is very important, not only for native tribes and nature enthusiasts like myself, but for Snowbowl to be taken seriously in the case for making artificial snow.

So that begs the question: If Snowbowl agrees not to expand the ski terrain AND the water used to make snow used can be proved to be "environmentally sound", will all the groups stop petitioning against them and let us ski?

In other words, is there a compromise here or do they not have a "Snowbowl's chance in hell" of making this happen?